[Rob Mc]

Has there been an update to this? I don't see anything new in the latest version of Genesis Blocks Pro.

I would really love to be rid of the Layouts Selector if the ability to use it continues to be so hamstrung. Right now, it's confusing at worst and useless at best, as my themes have nothing to do with Slate, Orange, or anything else. Much simpler to create custom patterns as needed.

If I can create and assign block patterns as Layouts, that's one thing. Otherwise... best for my users/needs to be rid of it like all of the rest of the "Theme" options every block plugin on earth seems compelled to provide.

The actual need is blocks and the ability to create and assign them as patterns in an easily accessible way. Until this can be done, please provide a way to rid ourselves of another useless item in the edit screen.

Thanks,
Rob Mc

[Rob Mc]

David,

I'll take you up on that offer - just sent you an email.

I would advise strongly to make visibility control of the "Layouts" button in the editor part of your free tier, or at least provide a code snippet that can be placed in the theme to remove that button.

Other similar block plugins (UAG, Kadence) are getting nailed for this with many asking how to get rid of these intrusive and unwanted features. With every block provider now throwing these template buttons into the editor, it's getting pretty crowded up there and uses are noticing. I'm very sensitive about what is, and is not, in my editor as I manage sites for many people. My users are noticing the intrusion and they are not happy about it - and neither am I.

I recommend Genesis stay classy and provide a means to remove the Layouts icon from the top of the editor for those who don't want that. Even a snippet would be fine. When they were the only one, it's wasn't a big deal. But, with everyone joining in... Best to be ahead of it, I would think.

Thanks,
Rob

[Rob Mc]

One more important thing: How can the Layouts button (in editor and as block) be removed?

If we can't easily add/customize the Layouts/sections, then as you've pointed out, making reusable blocks or patterns is really the way to go. How can the Layouts feature be removed from the editor screen and block list to reduce clutter and prevent any confusion from users/clients?

Right now, at least for all of the sites I manage, it's pretty useless and just clutters the editor screen. UAG Templates was similar - they provided premade templates that simply were never going to be used. Clients complained (UAG Templates has a very large, obtrusive button), and so I used their provided function to remove it.

Until Layouts becomes useful on a larger scale, I would prefer to remove it from the editor if possible.

Thanks,
Rob Mc

[Rob Mc]

David,

Thanks again for your timely reply.

Yes, I'm familiar with the process and am building some custom ones now using it. However, I can't predict every scenario and combination and would want to build something with clients in mind.

My plan is to build a series of layouts and sections that are generic, but useful to my particular client niche. The issue becomes customization. Just as Genesis comes with lots of nice layouts, I'm rarely going to use them because their color and scheme (Slate, Orange, etc) aren't the colors and scheme of the site I have or am working on. So, I can either tailor them all individually, each and every time I use them, or... make ones of my own.

What I would like to see from Genesis Blocks is the ability to provide "stock" layouts with the theme (either coded in or by plugin), and those layouts/sections could then be tailored to match the built site and saved for future use - that way the client (or me, with a service plan), can rapidly go in and create content without having to remember every single color code and font setting to make it all look coherent.

Equally important is to be able to create new layouts/sections while building, without needing to go back and build out/expand a custom plugin just to add or modify a block. That's... really cumbersome. Given that there are FREE block pattern plugins out there that allow for new patterns to be built straight from the editor, I'm not inclined to PAY for a similar plugin that can't do the same. It's an essential capability, IMO, and one that Genesis Pro needs to provide.

I can't tell what, exactly, Genesis Pro provides for along these lines - neither in tailoring nor in generating. Doesn't look like the generating part is ready yet, and its really uncertain about the tailoring part - the Genesis Pro video hints it might be possible in the permissions settings, but it's really left to the viewer's imagination.

Basically, I can't find out any meaningful detail about Genesis Pro and no one I've asked seems to know - including WP Engine support. Can layouts/sections/blocks be tailored and set? What is the mechanism? How about the premium MockUps block - what do the mockups actually look like? I've never seen them in any documentation. How about the Post Blocks - will they work with Custom Post Types (essential in my book) or are they like the Genesis Post Grid block, which doesn't? Hard to say, really. Saw a tutorial where blocks were made for WooCommerce, but... Will they work with Author Pro? Because Author Pro is super important to my business.

I'm not really ready to put the money down to find out, to be honest. Genesis Pro is an expensive plugin suite, so I'm hesitant to get it just for experimenting.

I think it is incredibly important for layouts/sections to be able to be built, modified, copied, and saved "on the fly" - to have to create or modify a custom plugin every time you build a site is... a lot to ask. And, like it's been said, there are free plugins that allow for patterns to be built this way, so why does the premium Genesis Pro not?

[Rob Mc]

David,

Thanks for commenting!

Yes, it's fairly easy to add/create Reusable Blocks - but what about adding them to "Layouts" or "Sections" in the Genesis Blocks plugin? That is the desired location, really. Otherwise what is the point of that feature?

If items can't be easily added to Layouts in Genesis Blocks (aside from creating a custom plugin), is there a way to remove that link and that block option from Genesis Blocks, so users know to only go to the traditional Patterns and Reusable Blocks?

Thanks,

[Rob Mc]

Has there been any updates on this? Or any indication in a roadmap for this plugin on when they intend to streamline the layout/section development process?

I saw another article on how to build layouts for themes, but I'm looking for something a little more "on the fly", either the ability to customize an existing layout or to build and assign patterns as a layout without needing to change the theme or build a custom plugin specifically to alter/add a layout.

The only way it looks like that an existing layout/section can be altered is manually with every instance of use. SO, if I like the "Slate" layouts but want to change a couple of colors and font, I have to manually make that change every time I use that layout/section, which is really tedious.

Is there an ability to tailor these somewhere that I'm missing? What about removing them, in the instance that I do make a custom set for my theme?

[Rob Mc]

I saw that Nate Price recently wrote about Genesis Plugin Deprecations, citing Genesis Simple Edits and Genesis Simple FAQ, both of which are pretty much superseded by Blocks and changes to the framework.

This is nice information, and it helps, but there is still very little information about the future of Genesis in a Full Site Editing world. For example, some really positive plugins like Author Pro require the Genesis Framework to be active, will that plugin be adapted to work with the new Genesis Blocks Theme or will it only be for "Legacy" themes that use the actual Genesis Framework? What about the bridge type plugins (bbPress, WooCommerce, etc)? What will, and won't, be needed in the future?

Is the current "Genesis Blocks Theme" a real theme or still a Beta? What is it's roadmap and will it incorporate the Genesis theme or be completely standalone?

I'm still waiting patiently for David V. - or someone - to provide some clarity on planning/roadmap for Genesis themes and plugins moving into a WordPress 5.8+ world.

Thanks,
Rob Mc

[Rob Mc]

I found this searching around the internet that separates the two actions (click and touchstart), but am unsure how (and where) to place that in my theme to separate the actions.

<script>
        $("#button").on('touchstart click', function(event) {
            if (event.type == "touchstart") {
                $(this).off('click');
                console.log("Only touch event is fired");
            } else if (event.type == "click") {
                $(this).off('touchstart');
                console.log("Only click event is fired");
            }
        });
    </script>

[Rob Mc]

Thank you, Anita. I'll keep an eye out for David V and, yes, more communication would be good.

[Rob Mc]

I appreciate the help here, as this issue has been driving me crazy.

However, I have to ask, why did the theme designers consider this theme "gutenberg ready" when the full width doesn't work? Not for hero image blocks, atomic block containers, or anything else?

I feel that the theme should comply with all aspects of the Gutenberg block formatting - allow the owners/designers to choose how to implement it. That I have to track down basic functionality in the forums, then update my theme, just to get it to work as advertised is really disappointing, not to mention frustrating.

[Rob Mc]

Exact same issue with Revolution Pro - changes to the WC settings in the Customizer have no impact whatsoever to how the theme shows WooCommerce images.

This is really, really frustrating and incredibly disappointing.

If someone could please provide some guidance on how to fix this, I would be very grateful.

[Rob Mc]

I double checked the settings in Monochrome Pro for WooCommerce thumbnail and product sizes - the coded options in "woocommerce-setup.php" are the only options allowed on my site - doesn't matter what I do in the customizer.

[Rob Mc]

Andy,

Thanks for the input.

I have tried the Customizer changes, but nothing actually changes. I've changed it in the Customizer and then run "Regenerate Thumbnails" each time - nothing.

When I look into the thumbnail details of Regenerate Thumbnails, it never changes the thumbnail sizes nor the crop settings for the "Product Images" thumbnail.

I feel like the WooCommerce styles in Monochrome for WooCommerce are dominating and preventing any changes via the customizer. I can't verify if this is true, but as the Customizer settings are never applied, I'm running out of reasons why that is.

I am reluctant to hard code in the sizes for these thumbnails, but I am running out of things to try.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Rob

[Rob Mc]

Indika,

I ended up putting in a bit of CSS into the Customizer.

.entry-background {
	background-image: none !important;
}

[Rob Mc]

I can, but I want to make it hard coded so it works right out of the box.

[Rob Mc]

Thanks, Andrea! That will work out perfectly, then.

I don't want clients to make any CSS changes, so that works out well, too.

[Rob Mc]

That worked!  Awesome!  Here I was trying to figure out how to reach deep into Genesis or something, and all I needed was a simple CSS tweak...

I guess sometimes I just over think it...;)

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