December 8, 2020 at 4:43 am #502238And_orParticipant
Hi David, good to hear you are looking at splitting the plugins from the themes. Might be more interesting for non-genesis user also...and in that way lead to more sales.
I remember an email coming by about a coupon, but by the time I wanted to check the offer I could not find the email anymore.
Meanwhile the transfer from Atomic to Genesis Blocks which affects all the sites that I optimistically build with Atomic came along, as yet I did not find the time to effect that change for most websites. Also it still remains vague what the Pro will add to Genesis Blocks.
As a one-man band its not that I do not want to do all those things...it is simply hard to find the time.
The hours that I loose on the Atomic transfer are another reason that I am reluctant to switch to Genesis Pro Blocks with its steep annual charge. It does not compare to spending millions on themes and plugins like you do, but for me it is important non the less.
Simplicity is not Simple WebtaurusDecember 8, 2020 at 6:33 am #502239David VogelpohlKeymaster
@RavenManiac - Thanks for the kind words and sharing your thoughts on why folks find all this important. I ran a Genesis agency for 5 years, so I can definitely relate as to why it's important to have confidence in the tools you use. As for you not getting the coupon, you should have received that on the email you used for your StudioPress.com account. The code is SP3FREE.
@And_or - Time is the only asset they're not making any more of, so I know how hard it is to find the time to learn new tools! As for Genesis Blocks, the current key pro features are the ability to restrict block settings for end users and an expanded group of block Collections. If you're building custom themes from scratch, you may also want to check out Genesis Custom Blocks. One of the key pro features there are repeating fields, but if you're interested in building custom blocks, I'd suggest you start with the free version to give it a shot. The free versions of GB / GCB are very functionally rich. We choose this path vs. watered down free versions to make sure we weren't "forcing" folks to buy the GP package by holding back super critical functionality.
I hope all this helps. As always, feel free to drop me a DM in Slack if you'd like to nerd out about any of this which is specific to you.December 8, 2020 at 4:11 pm #502247Manolor007Participant
I am watching how people are leaving Studiopress, it seems that the politics and the treatment of the client, the old clients, those of us who made the Studiopress themes great with our implementations are angry.
David, I want to remind you of only one thing ...... it is none other than one that I learned many years ago in my company ......... and it is none other than to always keep in mind that companies without customers do not they are nothing, customers are the most valued of a company ...... without customers there are no sales and without sales there is no company that is sustainable or profitable.
Throughout the life of Studiopress, the fame, the merit and that it has arrived where it has arrived is not only of its work team ..... hundreds of people, thousands have contributed to it in a selfless way, with channels of videos on the internet, classes like the Spanish Joan Boluda who has been one of the influencers for many Spaniards to use or use Studiopress.
The poor treatment of customers can be directly proportional to the success or failure of a company, you have not treated your customers well so far.
We are not to blame for the mergers of companies or their work problems ...... we simply paid a price for a complete product one day and today it is no longer the case, so we are a little disappointed or mistreated as customers, Greetings.December 8, 2020 at 4:24 pm #502249David VogelpohlKeymaster
@Manalor007 - Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts here. As mentioned, we are looking at the possibility of a different approach with the pro plugins in the Genesis Pro package and have offered discounts for exiting customers. Hopefully these and similar efforts will provide a path for those within the Pro Plus customer set who feel our current approach is in line with what they'd want to see. There are quite a few customers on the GP package currently, so there are certainly those who do find value and find the approach fair.
I'd also like to emphasize that we have done many and significant community friendly things in all of this including offering major new products for free (1st time ever in SP history) and investing millions in the Genesis Framework and themes when those products had near zero engineering investments at the time of the acquisition.
I wouldn't say "doing good things for existing customers" is a thing we'd start doing. We have been doing it.
I also get that not all of our decisions will be liked by everyone, but there are a ton of people in the Genesis community who do appreciate the investments we've made, major products we've released for free, and a variety of other benefits that didn't require anyone to buy anything new.
In the end, we'll keep doing our best to make the right decisions and investments we think will deliver value to everyone in the Genesis community. I can assure you that each time we're faced with a decision "How will this provide benefit to the community?" is always the first question myself and a ton other folks over here ask 🙂January 24, 2021 at 8:11 pm #502796madthoParticipant
Hi folks, just catching up on the drama here. I purchased the all themes package ages ago and really only ever used the the Sample theme. I’m a simple man.
I build sites in Genesis, but maintain some others with other themes and builders - I really wish I only had to deal with Genesis.
I have to say as much as I appreciated the community pre-WPengine, I feel like they are doing TONS more work on Genesis now than before. The transition to Gutenberg has yielded painfully simple, powerful site-making.
At the moment, there is not enough value in Genesis Pro for me, but at $360/yr, it wont take too much of a feature set to get me there.
@And_or It took me (also a solo operator) a little while to find the time to transition my sites from Atomic to Genesis blocks (about a dozen sites). Turns out I took care of it all in about 20 minutes. There’s nothing to worry about.
designer & marketing-focused site builder | matcoes.comJanuary 25, 2021 at 3:16 am #502801Manolor007Participant
Good morning 2021
We still have no news of the uncertain future of us affected by the new rules of StudioPress.
It has been more than a month, almost two months since Mr. David .... wrote the last post to calm the matter, but I see no intention of collaborating or fixing the problem of old subscribers that at the same time we are faithful to Genesis.
We have collaborated to make this framework great with our works and videos, presentations in WordCamps etc ................... if this is your payment for our work and work ... ..Say it out loud for the whole community to know.
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