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Eric AlexanderMember
Ben, I am with you on the 16 - 18 px in the body. It's the 60 px, weight:700 headings that kill me. I end up shrinking all the headings and titles. At least a bit.
A great case of annoying, huge fonts on the titles on the article pages on Foxnews.com.
I know everything ultimately depends on the site and it's audience. I haven't built a single product/single service site in a good while with a soul grinding call to action. They're restaurants, entertainers, B to B sites, etc.
I would be curious to learn about actual SEO results for sites that made this kind of change.
Tom,
The SEO questions may take a while longer to answer. I don't think Google's algorithm is dumb enough to confuse ad blocks pushing content below the fold with relevant images doing the deed. As always, smart guys will test, test, test to be sure.
I just read Yoast ranting against sliders for pushing content down and it's effect on SEO. I personally like well thought out sliders and use them a lot.
Overall, I do like the direction site design is heading, especially on mobile. I just need to knuckle down and do more themes that are totally from scratch instead of heavily modified.
Thanks for the great discussion, Tom, summer, Ben, and uwitness.
Eric AlexanderMemberTom,
I guess I harbor subconscious prejudice towards to one-pagers. To me, they harken a bit back to the 90s when pages were this looong stream of never-ending content, yet done now with grace and elegance and some parallax thrown in. Or some affiliate marketers page that is 22 feet long ending with a ClickBank product whose price ends in 97. (no offense, anyone.)
I am also wondering about SEO, with Google concerned about how much content is below the fold. I know their main concern is ad blocks pushing the content down, but still. There is a lot of scrolling going on.
It seems a shame, at times, to waste huge real estate on a large monitor by using 60+ px fonts and weight: 500, etc and 900 x 700 images on the front page. I agree it looks awesome, but I personally get tired of it when I encounter it in the wild when I am searching for something.
So far, clients seem to love it who want beauty and whiz-bang.
Anyway, I'm just curious if I missed this great discussion and am once again late to the party.
Eric
Eric AlexanderMemberThe css for the first 3 home-featured is :
.home-featured-1, .home-featured-2 { border-right: 5px solid #edebe8; } .home-featured-1, .home-featured-2 { float: left; } .home-featured-3 { float: right; }
I don't see any styling for home-featured 4, 5, or 6. Therefore, there is no float applied.
Try duplicating the above css and naming it -4 -5 -6 with the correct float.
That may help.
Eric AlexanderMemberOK Still no grid on the blog page, but the client likes it the way it is. I'm not sure she knows what the grid will look like. Regardless, it's launched, the blog has its own page header and they are tickled. I will update this post when and if I get a real fix.
Here's the link to the blog page I'm working on:
http://bpdrafthouse.com/brew-buzz/
Thanks for the input thus far..
Eric AlexanderMemberARRHHG! I did get posts to show up on the blog page, but they are standard 'do_loop' not grid. I can not get Brian's Grid Code to show posts on the Blog template at all. I found code at:
http://genesis.mywsiportal.com/genesis-grid-loop-advanced-htm/
To make posts show up, but no grid. I put the code in functions.php and on the page_blog.php child page. No grid.
I did get the page header to show by adding the following to functions.php:
function wpsites_content_before_posts() { if ( is_page_template( 'page_blog.php' ) ) echo '<div class="before-blog"><IMG SRC="http://bpdrafthouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/blog-header.png" ALT="image"></div>'; }; add_action('genesis_before_loop', 'wpsites_content_before_posts');
So right now the blog page works, ie shows posts and has a custom page header, but not with the grid like I would like and that I told the client she could have.
Still working on it.
Eric AlexanderMemberI may be confused as to what you are trying to do. I had a similar problem all day today trying to put an image above the posts on my blog page.
By default, the blog page will not output your customizing, as you are discovering. Go get a copy of page_blog.php from the Genesis Parent folder. Open it in a text editor and add the loop to it:
add_action( 'genesis_loop', 'genesis_standard_loop', 5 );
before the genesis ().
Upload it into your child theme folder. Now when you go to the page you created to be your blog, it is now using this blog page as a template. It will now output your cool work. You can use the Custom Fields to limit the output to certain categories if you need to.
Custom Field name = query_args Value is cat=x (category ID)
Sorry if you already know all this and your problem is more profound. Here's all I was trying to accomplish:
http://bpdrafthouse.com/brew-buzz/
Good luck
Eric AlexanderMemberUPDATE. Sorry folks. I violated the #1 rule in WP diagnostics. I did not deactivate all plugins first and seeing if the symptoms remain. Upon doing so, when Tab Manager was alone, all is well. Bringing plugins online one by one, revealed that the culprit is Nextgen Gallery.
Netxgen is giving me other problems, so I can probably dump it for now, though I don't want to. I am having CSS problems getting some margins to appear in a sidebar gallery. I can do that by hand.
Other option is still downgrade to WP 3.5x where it was all playing well together. Decisions, Decisions.
Eric AlexanderMemberI know it is yet another plugin, but, Genesis Responsive Header (CAN) load different headers for different widths. CSS is leaner, but sometimes it is best to insure the logo looks good small and important things like phone numbers get enlarged so they very visible. I think it is awesome to ensure the branding looks good small and the phone numbers get large enough to see with alternate headers.
BUT that being said, I am going to try the CSS approach. That will let me dump another plugin.
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