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September 18, 2015 at 7:02 am in reply to: Can someone please outline a typical use of themes? #165991JohnMac67Member
Tom, thank you so much for spending the time to reply to me. It's very helpful. I can see that Genesis has a lot of very positive things going for it and I will definitely take it further.
Thanks again for your help.
JohnSeptember 9, 2015 at 3:33 pm in reply to: Can someone please outline a typical use of themes? #165062JohnMac67MemberThanks Victor. I've had a really good look around and have viewed some video tutorials on Lynda.com. Basically my thoughts are as follows (I promise I'm not trying to be a troll, I've just bought the Pro Package and would be delighted to be wrong...).
When compared to the various Themeforrest themes I've used Genesis would appear to be very slow to work on. Adding content areas and styling them appears to take a LONG time. I agree that when you do it completely yourself you'll make something really unique but it will also take much, much longer resulting in a huge increase in development time.
If you don't know php it seems like you're dead in the water. It is something I've been meaning to look at for ages but learning php along with the slow development time is a big problem.
The themes on the Studiopress website are mostly old and lacking in style (many are from 2010, a lifetime ago in web years). I fell for the 'buy the lot and save $1000 line'. Silly me... On close inspection most are unusable in anything close to their existing form in 2015. I can see now why they are almost giving them away.
In summary I really don't know what to do. I realise this is a long rant but I think I've made a huge mistake here.
Any advice very gratefully received.
J.JohnMac67MemberThat's great, thanks Victor.
I guess I'm just surprised that I've looked at loads and loads of pages extolling the many virtues of Genesis from the develop/designer perspective and I can't find a thing on how it works from the clients point of view. Nothing. At the end of the day it's their website, they pay for it and they need to manage it.
I've been using concrete5 and it's SO EASY for clients to add pages, images etc... Even then they sometimes struggle and I've had to do a lot of talk throughs.
I've realised though that the concrete5 falls down on the amount of available plugins and themes. WordPress just seems to offer more for the developer. Not sure at all about the client side though.
JohnMac67MemberThanks Victor, I had a look. Great info...
Say a client wanted to add a special offer of some kind to a page in the form of a banner which contained a large headline, some text, an image and a button link to another page. Would they be able to do this without resorting to code or would they have to phone me?
Thanks again.
JohnJohnMac67MemberThanks Victor. I've only ever used WordPress through themes like Avada with built in page editors. Would the client just see the output you see when clicking the Default Editor under the page name?
If that's the case then 100% of my clients would be completely lost trying to update their site as it's just loads of code with the page text hidden inside it.
How do you guys instruct your clients on how to keep their sites up to date? A screen grab of a typical Dashboard page would really help me get my head around this.
Thanks again,
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