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October 9, 2013 at 10:44 am #65981stinkykongParticipant
The new Agency Pro theme, just released today, is the best piece of work to come out of Studio Press in a long, long time. Kudos to Lauren Mancke. I've been critical of recent work so my apologies for all that I don't understand. This newest release is certainly a huge asset for the StudioPress community.
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http://websentia.comOctober 9, 2013 at 3:25 pm #66008SusanModeratorI haven't tried it myself, but it looks pretty sweet!
October 9, 2013 at 4:21 pm #66020stinkykongParticipantI just noticed that it doesn't have a portfolio page. With Executive Theme, I believe you can have multiple portfolio pages. I think that same thing would do Agency Pro wonders. Maybe with a few lines of code, that also can be done.
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http://websentia.comOctober 9, 2013 at 4:54 pm #66024emasaiParticipantWow, I have been using and modifying Agency for a while. This is a whole new take on it and I love the new look. Now I just have to learn how to tame the beast!
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Lynne emasai.comOctober 9, 2013 at 9:20 pm #66051devParticipantI disagree. The old Agency had a solid, conservative, corporate look, quite suitable for an "agency" be it a consulting biz, insurance biz, any small service biz, etc.
The new version would work for an artsy-crafty biz, such as maybe a web designer or an interior decorator, but I don't see this working well for a civil engineering firm or estate-planning law firm.
Fortunately, the old Agency is responsive and still available. And fortunately Appfinite is still in business with their more corporate, button-down look.
I shutter to think with SP will do with their other corporate themes... Education and Executive.
October 9, 2013 at 9:35 pm #66054stinkykongParticipantDev, I hear where you're coming from. The new Agency appears to have abrubtly abandoned it's former self. I think it's cool just in and of itself, however it's target is way off in a different place. Why would SP do this? I don't know. But as you said, the buttoned down version is still there and I have very successfully converted it to HTML5 enabled status. I'd keep my old version because the general styling of it was very malleable.
So, in effect, we have a new theme.
Also, you mentioned Executive but that has been redone to HTML5 in a relatively conservative style. I think it's a keeper, too.
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http://websentia.comOctober 9, 2013 at 9:45 pm #66056devParticipantCorrect me if I'm wrong, but Agency was done in HTML 5 shortly after Gen 2.0 came out. Now it has been totally revamped into something totally different. Yes, we have a new theme.
Like other designers out there, we converted Agency to a lot of different looks because it was so simple:
http://newmediawebsitedesign.com/authors/book8/
http://justbeadad.com/
http://newmediawebsitedesign.com/authors/book2/
http://newmediawebsitedesign.com/authors/book6a/I kind of wish they had called it something else and kept the old Agency current.
October 9, 2013 at 11:08 pm #66071cneumanParticipantHow do you convert the old Agency to HTML5?
October 9, 2013 at 11:32 pm #66075SummerMember@dev, Agency 2.0 came out in either March or April 2012, if memory serves. This latest release is 3.0, and it's the first HTML5 version of it that I've seen, and Genesis 2.0 has only been out since early August.
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Slice of SciFi | Writers, After DarkOctober 9, 2013 at 11:37 pm #66077devParticipantI misspoke. It was Legacy (Appfinite) that had been converted. Sorry for the confusion. We use a lot of themes in our biz and I get them confused because so many look the same. But not Agency anymore!!
October 10, 2013 at 10:29 am #66149stinkykongParticipantcneuman, activating HTML5 in all themes is discussed in multiple pages both on and off the Studio Press website. It all starts here:
http://www.studiopress.com/news/genesis-2-0-resources.htm
You should back up your site before proceeding. Then download to your local machine, your functions.php and style.css files from your child theme's folder.
In the functions.php file, you paste inadd_theme_support( 'html5' );
, upload and make sure you site didn't break. If it did, undo the recent change on your local machine and upload again to restore or restore from your backup.
Once your site is converted, it will look goofy until you change your CSS tags to match the new HTML5 tags that resulted from the conversion. The reference for those tags is found here: http://my.studiopress.com/docs/genesis-markup-comparison/
You have to go down the list replacing one tag with the other such as replacing #wrap with .site-container which I do with a search/replace_all command in my editor.That gets most all the tags but not always each and every one. So you have to investigate and see what other issues you face.
Also, when you do this, your header text will probably come back if you had it hidden before . This is pretty easy to remedy by logging into your site, go to Appearance/Header and reset the former selection.
In any event, if you worked on files on your local machine and uploaded them, you can simply reload the reverted files. It might be a good idea to save a back up version of you functions.php and style.css (funtionsBAK.php and styleBAK.css works) in case you get totally flustered....it's happened to me.
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http://websentia.comOctober 12, 2013 at 1:00 pm #66434cneumanParticipantThanks Stinkykong for a great response. I am very green and although I have a local Bitnami site installed, I have don't have a complete duplicate. Could you recommend a backup tutorial or program?
Thanks
October 12, 2013 at 1:14 pm #66437stinkykongParticipantI don't know much at all about local database sites so I don't know that I can help. Studiopress support is probably a better source. What I have done is save local copies of functions.php and style.css as functionsBAK.php and styleBAK.css in case I need the originals to save back as functions.php and style.css. Then when I'm ready to the switch which takes maybe an hour, I open functions.php, add the HTML5 enabling code and upload. The site won't break but the layout will...mainly your divs have lost their styling because their ids and classes have been renamed. So I go through the list of changes that need to be made to style.css and do search/replaces on the designated tag names, starting at the top and working down to the bottom (with ONE EXCEPTION in that I change #sidebar-alt before I change #sidebar to their new names).
Do you have an online link for your site?
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http://websentia.comOctober 12, 2013 at 10:56 pm #66472cneumanParticipantUnfortunately no online link yet as we are developing on a Web Synthesis proxy server right now. I drank the Copyblogger Koolaid apparently. Hasn't been bad, but not great either. Support is a mixed bag with these guys as far as hosting.
Really seems ridiculous that converting to HTML5 is so difficult. I was hoping the "Pro" version of Agency would be a seamless switch that would accomplish the html5 and schema markup. Not the case.
So I guess the good news is we are not online and can break things without worry.
Thanks
October 13, 2013 at 4:37 am #66483stinkykongParticipantOh but the NEW Agency is indeed HTML/Schema ready. It's the old Agency I was referring to for the changes. All new themes (labelled "Pro") appear to have the feature built-in.
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http://websentia.comOctober 31, 2013 at 8:23 pm #70227cneumanParticipantOK, finally felt brave and did it. The hardest thing was getting a local version running to experiment with.
I went through your steps and it all seemed to work as you said. I still don't really understand what the online css converter did since I had to go through the chart and find and replace all to get the style.css to work.
So is that all there is to the conversion? Is my old Agency theme now just as good as a new "Pro" theme as far as schema and microdata and all that stuff?
Thanks for the help!
November 1, 2013 at 4:51 am #70275stinkykongParticipantYou can look at the source code of each version (your conversion and the new agency pro). You'll see in the body tag on any page a mention of "itemscope" which shows that the theme is converted. You'll have to take careful review of all page elements, especially those you don't have visible on a new site (maybe the alt sidebar is still wonky, or the footer is reformatted with text aligned to center, etc, etc, etc). The conversion also might throw your header image out of kilter....all is fixable through further adjusting CSS.
Now in answer to your question, "Is my old Agency theme now just as good as a new “Pro” theme ...". It's in the running with all the other themes. Maybe one is better than another in minute ways...I don't know, but perhaps that's a good question for the floor (here) or even to Studio Press support.
BTW, there is a plugin called Microdata Manager by Brad Potter that offers you the ability to change some of your microdata tags on a per-page basis. Microdata being so complex, I don't know what the advantages are SEO wise either today or tomorrow but with HTML5 activated, you're prepared to take advantage of it all.
Hope this all helps. Give us a link when you're up and running.
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http://websentia.comNovember 1, 2013 at 8:02 am #70291olivier.moreauMemberOne thing is sure, I'm not going to upgrade some existing sites from Agency to Agency-pro because it's too much changes in the design. That means my old site are not fully HTML5 because I'm not going to spend hours changing CSS tags. The Executive Pro theme seems more similar to the old Agency and it's in HTML5... When I think one of the reason I choose Genesis was the automatic upgrade !!!
November 1, 2013 at 8:28 am #70297WilliamMemberUpgrades don't always go the way you may expect. Just look at the issues over at Apple with the changes to the iWork suite. Plenty of people think that Apple dumbed it down to be compatible with the iOS versions. In effect, they released an upgrade that eliminated useful features.
That doesn't mean the new product is a bad product. It's just not one that works for the folks who are complaining about it. Others who don't use those features, but appreciate some of the new touches, are happy with the new version of iWorks.
This looks like the same issue here. It's a re-invention of the idea for the product. If it's not for you, stick with the old generation.
The lesson I'm learning from it is to keep my own archive of the themes that I like in case of a replacement. Yes, it means that you're stuck in time and may not have access to new technology. That's life. Nobody truly gets to have it all.
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http://williambeem.comNovember 1, 2013 at 8:38 am #70300stinkykongParticipantThe new Agency Pro is nothing at all like the old Agency. This is true of all the new versions of themes of the same name but especially so for Agency.
I don't know why they keep the same names on some of these but my take is this: The old Agency is one of my favorites and most used for customization...a very flexible design.
The new Agency is totally, totally different. The flexibility I think it offers comes from the background image and how strong a role it plays in the visual impact. That means you must rely heavily on it and have some image editing skills which for some people is a plus but for others would perhaps appear to be a crutch.
I find the new Agency to be promising but not at all a viable substitute for what the old Agency had to offer. The ability to convert the old Agency to HTML5 successfully gives us the best of both worlds. Today, I am happy to use both.
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