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June 28, 2015 at 7:55 am #157734
As someone who love using Genesis Framework with Studiopress themes and minimal plugins, I'd like to know if it's necessary to use an addition SEO plugin on our sites? I know Genesis comes equipped with SEO but is that good enough for traffic generation?
Thoughts?June 28, 2015 at 9:17 am #157744Brad DaltonParticipant
I think it is, yes.
Do Genesis users need a SEO plugin?
June 28, 2015 at 9:52 am #157745MoodyRivieraMember
I'm definitely with Brad on this...I think it's easy to get carried away worrying about SEO while neglecting other more important aspects of your web site and other ways to market your site...the built-in Genesis SEO settings are all you need...as long as you put some thought and some time into it...which you'll have to do with any SEO plugin you get anyway.
*MoodyRiviera*June 28, 2015 at 11:55 am #157757hughjackmandMember
I have spend years in promoting different websites but never found that kind of SEO plugin will generate any traffic on your website. If you want to improve traffic on your website than you should contact seo company or Please message me at [email protected]
June 28, 2015 at 1:17 pm #157761
Thank you all for replying. I've been debating this with some other bloggers and most have told me "Yes, you need Yoast" however, these are also bloggers that aren't using Genesis Framework.
I'm going to stick to what I've been doing and keep my webby one less plugin free. 😉
Thank you again!
BrendaJune 28, 2015 at 3:33 pm #157767greggMember
The developers of Genesis recommend using a more advanced SEO plugin than what is offered in Genesis by default. Also, StudioPress doesn't plan to put much work into the SEO features going forward. The following was posted in the comments of StudioPress's latest blog post:
May 30, 2015 at 10:14 pm
I am disappointed that the SEO functionality has not been update. If you look at yoast they give more helpful contextual things in terms of the keyword helper and the meta description length indicator."
June 2, 2015 at 10:31 am
We’re probably not going to do much updating to the Genesis SEO features in the future, other than bug fixes and obvious upgrades. Instead, we actually recommend people switch to a more advanced SEO plugin if you need anything more than the basics that Genesis provides. Genesis is compatible with all the popular SEO plugins, and gracefully disables any SEO features that might conflict with the plugin. It’s pretty painless."June 29, 2015 at 6:35 am #157815
Thank you, Gregg. I don't focus too much on SEO and quickly frankly I was using Yoast until the latest update and it hosed my blog. I think the Theme SEO gives me just the amount of SEO I'm looking for. I do thank you for the additional information. Thanks.
BrendaJune 29, 2015 at 12:25 pm #157853SummerMember
FWIW, I stopped using Yoast SEO with Genesis a couple of years ago, when for some still undetermined reason it was adding an average of 25 seconds (yes, twenty-five) to my Genesis site load times, and more than a few people who were having site load issues with Yoast and Genesis at the time pretty much had their concerns dismissed out of hand on the WP.org support forums.
The built in Genesis SEO has sufficed for most of my sites, but if there's even a chance that future versions won't even include that feature, then we should start planning transitions now.
Also, Genesis doesn't automatically disable itself with all popular SEO plugins; Infinite SEO from WPMU Dev is absent from their list, which I find interesting because 2 of the ones it will auto-disable itself for were ones I've never even heard of 🙂
Writing something that will trigger Genesis SEO to disable itself for Infinite SEO has been on my list this year.
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Slice of SciFi | Writers, After DarkJune 29, 2015 at 12:40 pm #157858
Thanks so much for your info!June 30, 2015 at 2:04 am #157902darren_cMember
I switched to the Yoast plug-in a few months ago and wish I hadn't. It's too complex and requires constant updates. The developers are quite arrogant and don't respond well to criticism.June 30, 2015 at 9:08 am #157932MoodyRivieraMember
I'm reasonably sure that Yoast does a good job with SEO, but I think the biggest thing Yoast has going for it is a heavy-duty marketing team who has been very successful in getting influential bloggers to praise the product...and once that happened everyone else believed the hype and wrote the same thing in their own blogs and reviews...and next thing you know, everyone thinks you can't live without Yoast. When I've looked at the plugin it seems overly complex and way too much trouble...at least for my modest needs.
*MoodyRiviera*June 30, 2015 at 9:13 am #157934
Thank you, Dareen and Moody.
I don't want to bash Yoast because apparently they have something good going on, but there are also several other SEO plugin's out there that are less popular.
I'm sticking to my native theme seo and going to ride it out for awhile. I will agree that Yoast is rather confusing to set up. I tried it a few years ago and was totally lost. 🙂
Thanks again for good convo.
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