Community Forums › Forums › Archived Forums › General Discussion › GDPR, Genesis eNews Extended + Mailchimp
Tagged: gdpr, genesis enews, MailChimp
- This topic has 10 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 5 years, 11 months ago by wizz6113.
-
AuthorPosts
-
May 18, 2018 at 10:48 am #220055wizz6113Member
I've spent an entire day trying to work out a way I can continue to use Mailchimp embedded forms that can be GDPR compliant (impossible anyway) with Genesis Enews Extended widget which is on many of the Genesis sites I run. I think the only option is to use Mailchimp forms (not embedded) but how do I use them with the Genesis eNews plugin? Can I simply remove the FNAME, EMAIL fields, and somehow keep the button but get it to link to the Mailchimp form? I am totally lost on this. Clearly most Genesis theme designers have CSS that defines that widget so I can see doing this won't work. Anyone trying to fathom this GDPR form nightmare out? Thanks.
https://parfumsclandestins.comMay 18, 2018 at 9:57 pm #220071AnitaKeymasterA checkbox is coming to Genesis eNews Extended. See Brandon's tweet here - https://twitter.com/Kraft/status/997237109227507712.
Love coffee, chocolate and my Bella!
May 19, 2018 at 5:40 am #220079wizz6113MemberBrilliant news! Thanks for the alert Anita. Brandon says shipping update probably Monday so that resolves my headache!
May 23, 2018 at 7:06 am #220175kinakutaMemberI saw the update, but it only offers a link to the privacy page. I need a user checkbox, because the user needs to opt-in before submitting the data.
Currently, there is no way to add a checkbox and a text like "hereby I consent to XXX storing my data for the purpose of sending my newsletters...etc."Any ideas?
May 23, 2018 at 7:30 am #220177wizz6113MemberKinakuta,
Exactly! Nothing worth doing the update for quite frankly! I had already use the 'Text below form' field to enter a link to my privacy policy. And if you use the PP checkbox in the plugin, on my theme at least, it looks awful as not aligned correctly under the submit button. What we do need, as you mention, is that consent style checkbox.I am using Mailchimp and double optin, so have basically spelled out in the confirmation email with link, that by clicking the link the potential subscriber is assenting to receiving enews with my offers, news updates etc and for email marketing purposes. I am hoping this will suffice. To me, that seems like 'consent at the point of sign up, as if they receive the verify mail and then decide otherwise, they won't be placed on my list. But, if Brandon Kraft et al could update to include a consent checkbox, nice and overt at point of sign up on the site that would be ideal.
May 23, 2018 at 8:17 am #220178kinakutaMemberYes, that's exactly what I mean. And yes, it looks ugly at the moment, too.
Also, I agree that getting user consent while signing up using the form is preferable to only having a notice in the email.
So I hope this will be fixed soon as the GDPR deadline is tomorrow.May 23, 2018 at 8:56 am #220180wizz6113MemberDon't panic, all indications are that the various data commissioners aren't going to knock on SME and lone bloggers' doors on day 1! As long as you're showing you've made the steps you can and are doing what you can ie. pp next to sign ups, and consent somewhere on the sign up trail, I think it's fine while we sort out the rest. I can't think why Gen enews ext hasn't done the biz yet given the lead up time to GDPR. As enews may be used to market, not just deliver content without brand marketing, product info etc, it's clear it should have that checkbox at point of sign up. However, if you are then linking to Mailchimp or similar and can add GDPR checkboxes on before confirmation, then it's fine. Just that Mailchimp embedded doensn't (yet) add those GDPR field either!
May 23, 2018 at 9:02 am #220181kinakutaMemberWell, it depends which country is hosting the site.
In Germany there are specialized law firms that will sent a disciplinary warning letter to a site not 100% GDPR compliant and they charge a couple hundred Euros for it. Some law firms do nothing else but find site that are non-compliant. That's their business model. Sad, but a reality.
So you better get everything 100% in order for the 25th.May 23, 2018 at 9:05 am #220182wizz6113MemberI am not sure why the law firms would send that threat / 'fine'?! I can see they might try it on by harrying the poor lone blogger who is not 100%. But surely, the only entity that can issue warning letters (which is what the UK's ICO is saying come first) would be the national Data Commission in the various EU states. Sounds like private sector law firms are on the make on this one!
May 23, 2018 at 9:14 am #220183kinakutaMemberSadly, that's been happening for a couple of years already. The German data protection laws have been almost as strict as the GDPR for quite some time and since then there have been many private sector law firms that have threatened to sue for data protection violations and sent a written warning letter, which says "pay the fees of a couple of hundred Euros now or be fined a couple of thousand in case a judge finds you guilty". In effect this has created a whole industry of firms just finding non-compliant websites and sending them written warning letters. And it's perfectly legal, ethically and morally questionable, but legal.
May 23, 2018 at 9:18 am #220184wizz6113MemberGawd! This is not what GDPR has in mind, I am sure - the fuelling of a private law firm racket. So sad it ends up like this. I have heard, via the work I do, of similar happening in the states - robo-filing by law firms - for supposed false claims by indie skincare brand for using words like 'natural' etc on their branding. Sounds like a similar thing ow happening with GDPR. I have two more sites to deal with, and other blogs, I am simply taking offline as I don't have time to manage all the ins and outs and now these worries about some law firm digging around in them! Thanks for the warning!
-
AuthorPosts
- The forum ‘General Discussion’ is closed to new topics and replies.