I'm having a conceptual problem

[theMikeD]

I'm new to genesis and I admit I'm having what I think is a conceptual problem with hooks and so on. Let me try to explain.

Lets say for example that I want to programatically remove the comments from a post. Google tells me that to do this I need to add this
remove_action( 'genesis_after_post', 'genesis_get_comments_template' );
before calling genesis(); Fine. But how would I know this if not for google?

The reason I ask is that there are many many hooks listed in the hooks guide, but none of them list the actions they use.

For example, from the hook guide:

genesis_after_post
This hook executes after each post in all loop blocks (outside the post_class() div).

Thats an accurate description. But where do I find a list of the actions that are used in this section, such as genesis_get_comments_template?

Without this information, it's impossible to target the bits I want to modify or turn off, because the remove_action fails without any form of error; if the action I'm trying to turn of doesn't exist, nothing happens.

Another example: google tells me that to remove the post meta I add the following line:
remove_action( 'genesis_after_post_content', 'genesis_post_meta' );
How would I be able to determine something like this for myself? I'm happy to look through the genesis code but I need to know what I'm looking for.

If anyone can describe how I can go about finding this information, I would be very grateful.

…Mike

[SoZo]

I recommend starting off by reading through Nick's Genesis Explained series of posts.

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[nickthegeek]

I was going to recommend that same series. I try to break it down and follow more or less the same path I took as I learned Genesis with an emphasis on learning how to use the files to find things like that.

[netviper]

I have an issue with that stuff too.  I haven't found anywhere - other than some of nicks stuff - that explains how to use any of the hooks and filters.  It is very different even for people that have used WP for years that have never before needed to do that.

[noxbane]

Although it doesn't list the actions on each hook (which would be great) the Genesis Visual Hook Guide is a good resource for seeing where certain hooks happen in the page structure.   But a listing of each action that takes place on each hook would be a great resource.

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